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Campus killer’s purchases apparently within gun laws - CNN apparently not into telling truth. Why Too much non crime is a bad thing.

 

Campus killer’s purchases apparently within gun laws

Source: Campus killer’s purchases apparently within gun laws - CNN.com

I’ve written CNN many times over the years re their disregard for facts when it comes to the legal carrying, description and misuse of firearms they consistently  get it wrong to the point that  it’s not an accident.   Here’s a post   and comment series that’s quite interesting. Firstly  it’s a crime to lie on the form 4473 which you must fill out when buying a firearm , new or used, from a licensed dealer.   Then again so is homicide,  see just how useful our paper tigers are?  

 I think we’ve created so much  “crime” in the US that doesn’t rely on the need for there to be a  victim, or damages incurred that   resources are expended on controlling those that ordinarily would be of no inconvenience to the general population but are used to  demonstrate who’s in charge”   A good post on this  can be found here .  As much as I like annoying objectivists   the originator  Rand had some  great things to say on this subject  one of the most famous from  Atlas Shrugged being,

“Did you really think that we want those laws to be observed?”, said Dr. Ferris. “We want them to be broken. You’d better get it straight that it’s not a bunch of boy scouts you’re up against — then you’ll know that this is not the age for beautiful gestures. We’re after power and we mean it. You fellows were pikers, but we know the real trick, and you’d better get wise to it. There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power that any government has is to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted — and you create a nation of law-breakers — and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system, Mr. Rearden, that’s the game, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with.”

 

Put it this way  the local  Sheriff charges  about $70 to  book and  $130 a day to house  those arrested by other departments  for most crimes that result in  fines or action that cost way less than  the  system to arrest, process , try , pay for juries / judges  and the people then enforce the judgements.  The above quote seems rather ominous now?

I’m not sure I’m getting value for money  when there’s no one aggrieved. I don’t buy that  a victimless crime is a precursor to  serious crimes either.  Everyone at some time has HAD to speed  or was caught unaware  by a change in conditions yet we can avoid shoplifting, assault and fraud since  it’s in most people’s interests to not harm others , who wants to live in a world where you have to guard your  family , food, water  etc every minute of every day ?  ( You still should be ready to   but it’s thankfully not needed in most countries that have reached the Civ stage of telephone system:) note I don’t include  guarding against the state that’s another thing altogether )  

2 Comments so far

  1. KevinNo Gravatar April 21st, 2007 9:13 am

    Somehow I think that had you been in the classroom the story might have turned out differently.

  2. haltseNo Gravatar April 21st, 2007 9:41 am

    Something I would hope to never find out. I do know that anyone trying it at work gets a monitor thrown at them, may not work but least I’ve thought about it. If someone’s going to shoot you anyway may as well try anything.

    What I can’t get is that the majority are duck and don’t run. This is a good thread on that over at http://ernunnos.livejournal.com/1432929.html

    I can’t see 5 people tossing chairs at a door wouldn’t have totally changed the dynamics of this. Sadly it’s a dangerous area to speculate upon since we have no responsibility now for our safety , having ceded it to twats like Larry Hinckler ,VT’s pr person, I find it easier to those that used force to proudly forbid the right to defend yourself..

    What I can’t work out is how that plays out when another Paine in the states ass shows up.. do they still remain quiescent or does a threat to the ability to stay comfy move people to action? Ie whose side benefits from the apathy:)

    I still , and it’s a crappy bet,those laws but given the choice I won’t go to ASU or any other area where they ban a means to defend myself and the family.

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